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07/19/07

Angry Birthparent Camp Followers?

Posted by : Deb Donatti in Open Adoption Blog at 06:30 pm , 962 words, 211 views  
Categories: Rants and Ravings, Adoption Frustration, Society's View


Of all the twists and turns in the adoption community, one new thing I have noticed is a small crop of adoptive parents who profess to understand everything that is wrong with adoption, and believe they connect completely with birthparents and their unique issues. This is no small feat in my mind. I will not mention names, or point fingers, but it suffices to say, they are out there. Many readers here may already have met someone like them, and will know what I am talking about.

Let me just say, I know some things that are wrong with adoption. I also see through the lens of my own experience, so I frequently miss stuff here and there. I do still have some varied perspective, in fact I have rarely mentioned that I am also a birthfamily member. My brother placed several of his children in closed adoptions. I do not however, by any stretch of the imagination, think that even this makes me fully informed about the birthparent perspective on adoption. With experiences so unique to every situation, I do not know how anyone can claim to understand it all. I pretty much do well to process all of my own, individual journey.

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This crowd of adoptive parents I spoke of, talk about open adoption like they have experienced it with complete clarity, and as few of the rest of us do. They fully believe they understand how the rest of the adoption community is messing things up. Yes, what’s going wrong with adoption is our fault, not theirs. They did it right and ethically, and that lets them off the hook. Oddly they often appear to agree whole heartedly with those who do not favor adoption under most all circumstances, and yet they adopted, or are in the process of adopting themselves. Huh?
Everything they speak of seems to be about birthparents, and what birthparents need. An adoptive parent thinking of their own family and their adopted child’s needs would be so, so wrong to these people. I even heard one of these adoptive parents felt it was their responsibility to ask their child’s birthmother if it was “ok” if the adoptive family added another child. They needed her permission? Talk about self- effacing behavior. In fact, I feel these adoptive parents often take this show of their birthparent understanding to the extreme. They point fingers at other adoptive parents (the rest of us) who they believe just do not get it, and there fore couldn’t possibly be trying.

I think I do get one thing, I think these folks are so anxious not to suffer from the guilt that adoptive parents can often feel, about taking a child however freely given, from another mother to raise as their own, that they block a few details. They have truly blocked out the truth of their own adoptive parent status. They try so hard to separate themselves from those few adoptive parents who do not work to create empathy and understanding in their own adoptions, that they have removed themselves from us all. It often appears they prefer to be at odds with adoptive parents, yet they are still adoptive parents themselves.

Birthparents and adoptees who are on the extreme fringes of adoption animosity really love these people! Yes, the anti-adoption movement can’t wait to find more of them. Only problem is how do they find them before they have adopted. These adoptive parents seem to feel like they are firmly entrenched in the birthparent camp of adoption divisions, because they understand things so well. I think however the day will come when they see that do not understand as well as they believe, as no one can every fully claim to know another’s experience.

I think this new sub-culture of adoptive parents has sprung from the new and more intense relationships of open adoption. They talk about reform, and ethics, and adoptive parents, as if they are looking down from their pedestal of knowledge and shaking their heads at the rest of our sad muddles. Some birthparents seem to love these particular adoptive parents, after all they just know their place, they talk the talk, get the rhetoric, they understand the issues, Or do they?

They almost act as if they hate the institution of adoption, and yet they have adopted, and perhaps are prepared to adopt again. They would have us believe that adoption just was their luck of the draw. They never mapped it out, or persuaded it in. They let themselves off the hook that the rest of adoptive parents can fully expect to be hung out on.

I really think this new group of A- parents has actually aligned themselves in such a way as to avoid feeling responsible for participating in the less than favorable avenue of adoption. People may well look down on those who place their own babies for adoption, but society also takes a very harsh view of those women who take the babies, those of us who adopt. Most of our society does not understand women who would do either.

Being the focus of so much animosity can be overwhelming, so as humans we find ways to cope, to conform. I wonder if this behavior I described has become a coping method for those adoptive parents under the pressure of the increasingly more and more open adoptions of today. If that is the case, then I am afraid it is a problem that will only grow as the world of open adoption becomes ever more open and more complex.

Further reading. . .

The Kind Of People Who Take Babies Away

Open Adoption - Prepare To Be Unprepared

Pity? No Thanks

Adoptive Moms and Birth Moms



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Comment from: Deb Donatti [Member] Email · http://open.adoptionblogs.com
Erin, Very well said. Thanks
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 19:04
Comment from: erin_d_a [Member] Email
Deb I see what you are saying, honestly I do.

My perspective on it is this. I speak as an adoptive mother for birthmother/adoptee rights because I think both are being trampled on in this country. I speak about it because SO SO many pre-adoptive parents are very ignorant of the issues involved. And I hear ALL THE TIME that I'm anti-adoption, and I'm far from that. I'm an adoptive mom, and I will adopt again. BUT I have my eyes wide open and will be looking out for the best interests of parents and children over my desire to grow my family.

I also hear that I'm on the angry birthmother bandwagon, but 90% of the time it is from someone who is judgeing from a few posts in the light of their own ideas and prejudices without listening to my side at all. They feel they have it all figured out, and are unwilling to open their minds. I think we ALL (myself included) suffer from this mindset at some times.

There are people out there on the other side who think the industry is fine, maybe needs a little tweaking, and when they hear the idea that there needs to be major reform, they balk at the idea. They get angry at the person who said it, no matter how gently it was said, and find major fault with the person who said it, based only on their words.

I will never understand the birthparent experience, nor will I ever understand the adoptee experience. There is no way I could, but I do try and empathize. I do feel betrayed by the industry because I had no idea how corrupt it was. I want to see change so that my children don't live in the same adoption world that we live in now.


PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 19:26
Comment from: Jan Baker [Member] Email · http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/
"Society also takes a very harsh view of those women who take the babies, those of us who adopt"

Maybe that is how you feel and the feedback that you receive. However, that is certainly not the typical view of adoptive parents in my view. Most people I come in contact with, and media stories I read praise adoptive parents and think adopting babies is a heroic act.

All of the daytime t.v. shows - Oprah, Dr. Phil, Montel Williams praise adoptive parents highly. I don't think people who adopt are evil beings - never have. Only the fringe anti-adoption people seem to from what I can tell.

I am sorry that you are having such a difficult time with one of your adoptions. But, I think you are doing your best (and then some)and certainly believe that few would think otherwise. Sounds like you have given 110% and getting no appreciation or much but trouble from the birth family now. You deserve better and I hope your situation improves soon.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 19:42
Comment from: Jan Baker [Member] Email · http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/
"I want to see change so that my children don't live in the same adoption world that we live in now."

A great goal Erin. I feel the same way. I honestly am puzzled a bit at this post. I am grateful for adoptive parents who try to be open-minded and see all sides as you and many others do. Deb is seeing something that I definitely do not.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 19:46
Comment from: Deb Donatti [Member] Email · http://open.adoptionblogs.com
Jan, Thanks for your support concerning my family situation.

A word about how this is "not the typical view of adoptive parents" though, I certianly disagree. Of course many people do express that they admire adoptive parents, but the underlying message from those same people is also often, "But, I could never do that."
Well why not?
Perhaps because deep down they really do NOT approve on some level.
I had my own SIL tell me once that I should feel fortunate that my husband would adopt, because her husband would not have if they could not have had their own.
Does this sound like approval?
To me it feels like what a birthmother might experience when she is told by someone, "Oh I could never give MY baby away."
How can they be so sure?
Another thing I frequently get is how it is so wonderful WE adopted, but if I ask the speaker why they never considered it, I get "well we did not have to, we had our own."
Also not approval in my book.
There are many subtle ways that society does not really accept adoptive parents, as well as they do not accept birthparents. I guess you would have to be in my shoes for one of these encounters to know where I am getting this though.
Jan, sorry it is something you definitely do not see, but it is there.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 19:53
Comment from: soblessed [Member] Email
Oh, Deb, you are so right. And, BestLight, what you say makes perfect sense. There are all ranges of personalities in all the different positions in adoption.

Deb, great post. Thanks once again for giving voice to what's important in adoption. :)
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 19:58
Comment from: BestLight [Member] Email · http://weebleswobblog.blogspot.com
I have noticed this phenomenon, too, Deb. In fact, I have been on the receiving end of some pretty biting comments from this group.

I think people from the three corners of the triad run the entire spectrum. That's why you see what you see and Jan see what she sees and anyone reading sees what he/she sees and I see what I see.

Thank you for putting this into words.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 20:12
Comment from: mariah [Member] Email
Oh, my Deb, you get it!! Ordinary adoptive parents can't write on anti-adoption forums--well, they can, but there is no dialogue whatsoever. They can't post on ordinary adoption blogs/forums unless they support fully open adoption. If they have the temerity to say they think that direct contact can be detrimental to children, they are tossed in the mud with all the 'closed adoption' advocates. They can't even explain what they mean in detail, because minds close as soon as it's clear that their adoptions aren't fully open. The responses they get are extremely negative. It's very hard to keep trying and to keep getting kicked in the gut over and over. Sometimes they are even discussed on blogs by people who don't know them, but who think they do because of what someone else has said. And it's not positive, supportive discussion. It's often hate-filled. Even if they post on someone's blog, and the blog owner is open-minded, the commenters can be vicious. They're just 'not allowed' to veer from the trendy open adoption path. More adoptive parents might post if they weren't so fearful of being dissed. There might be more progress if the adoption reformers were more open themselves.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 20:59
Comment from: loveajax [Member] Email
Deb,

Thank you for this thread.

I "lost" a dear a parent friend (whom I had a buddy group with) when I found out that she had "banded with" some anti-adoption folks and basically admitted that she was trying to do some "subtle" activism. It was so insulting. It was basically a way for her to say, "my adoption was sooooo ethical" but yours weren't. (Frankly, I never quite understood why her adoption was ethical but mine wasn't, but I digress.)

I will never let anyone lead me to believe that the adoption of my DD was unethical. Only I and my child's birth family know the circumstances of her adoption and I think we are all glad that adoption was an option and the option that was chosen.

I KNOW that there are things that could be improved, but it drives me nuts when some "reforms" are taken as a "must." For example, elimination of the adoption tax credit, "guardianship," extensive relinquishment/revocation periods, no potential a parents present at deliveries, federal "boards" to adoption oversight, etc. I totally believe in unbiasesd counseling and support for birth families who choose to parent their children. But I also believe that some of the "reforms" are really a way for birth parents who now regret placements to "force" birth parents to parent. I hate eliminating options and choices for women, period, and yet, the "message" seems to be: "WE know what is best for you."

I love my daughter's birth family dearly and I think love/respect between a familes and birth families is the BEST way to promote "reform."
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 21:39
Comment from: Sandra Hanks Benoiton [Member] Email · http://international.adoptionblogs.com/
What I notice is that the adoptive parents you write about here seem to feel that they've cornered the reform market, as if the rest of us either have no clue or are somehow pro-corruption ... that "if you're not with us, you're against us" exclusionary, divisive mentality that is so unhelpful, and so untrue.

It also appears that steps toward real reform are few and far between, if suggested at all, while criticism is rife.

Shouting, "They system must change! The system must change!" while functioning within the system as it is, but insisting others shouldn't or that the system should be shut down until some solution magically appears does seem more than a bit disingenuous.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 21:42
Comment from: soblessed [Member] Email
Good points, Mariah. Unfortunately, the people who are turned off or turn away from being verbally bashed are the ones who are going out and making decisions regarding open vs. closed adoptions. The people who are shamed into silence are not dropping the idea of adoption....they are just leaving the area where they are being "educated" and then taking that experience into their adoption decision-making.

A little understanding and compassion for those who feel differently, for whatever reason, seems like it would serve the purpose of education better. At least people wouldn't enter into decision making processes feeling defensive about their views.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 21:44
Comment from: Jan Baker [Member] Email · http://birthparents.adoptionblogs.com/
Loveajax,

Why on earth would anyone want to force a woman to parent? The point is providing options for women, not forcing any decision.

As for "musts" driving you nuts, some reforms ARE "musts" simply because they carry too many potential risks. Agreeing on what they are though is the problem.

As for the adoption tax credit, I have never seen anyone suggest that as a part of reform. Maybe the anti-adoption folks would though.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 22:00
Comment from: Deb Donatti [Member] Email · http://open.adoptionblogs.com
I have seen the call for a repeal of the adoption tax credit by several groups, an annoyed "author" whose name I have been asked not to mention (Sandra you may know her) is one of those where I believe I saw it mentioned on her "family" website.

soblessed, Bestlight, mariah, Sandra, Loveajax, thanks to you all for some very insightful comments.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 22:09
Comment from: loveajax [Member] Email
Jan,

Have you ever read the proposed legislation from this website (which I think has some braod support, but obviously I don't know):

http://www.nationalinfantadoptionreformact.com/home.htm

When I read it, it suggests to me creating a LOT of hurdles to infant adoption.

I read the Donaldson report and I totally agree with most of the suggestions there (though I don't agree with extensive revocation periods, but that's obviously my own perspective).

When "reforms" are such that children are placed in foster care, instead of with prospectie adoptive parents, etc., I think that is at least a "subtle" way to tell birth parents that they should parent.

I don't disagree with "reform," I guess I just don't know what the "musts" are either, except in my mind unbiased counseling and support for birth parents who choose to parent are definites.
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 22:10
Comment from: loveajax [Member] Email
whoops...just wanted to add that I also totally believe in legally enforceable OA contracts (the state I live in has them, though there are provisions for a parents to go to court to "change" them if the OA is not in the child's best interest).
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 22:13
Comment from: MamaS [Member] Email
Jan - It's not so much "forcing" a woman to parent as the belief that EVERY woman who ever gave birth wants to keep and raise the baby and would, if:
- she had the approval of society;
- she had family support;
- she had support from the birthfather;
- she had medical support to help end drug/alcohol abuse;
- she had a mentor to help her learn how to parent;
- she had support from the government;
or a combination of the above.
It is just beyond all comprehension that there might be some women who DID NOT WANT TO GET PREGNANT AND DO NOT WANT TO PARENT.
Or even more incomprehensible, that a woman might actually know when she had reached her "limit" and could say "I can't parent another one. The one, or two, or three, etc. that I have are all I can cope with."
PermalinkPermalink 07/19/07 @ 23:26
Comment from: John [Member] Email
Thanks for covering this Deb. I though maybe I was the only one that picked up on adoptive parents who commented from the 'dark side of the force'. Have you ever wondered how they can parent effectively, while beliving that adoption is so wrong? John
PermalinkPermalink 07/20/07 @ 00:25
Comment from: mariah [Member] Email
I've heard some birthmothers say that an open adoption means kin/family and you just have to work it out, no matter how 'messy' it gets. That this is what open adoption was supposed to mean. I beg to differ.
PermalinkPermalink 07/20/07 @ 00:38
Comment from: mariah [Member] Email
Several months ago, I commented, regarding what open adoption should be, that it was all well and good to want to right perceived wrongs, but we needed to be careful that we didn't create another whole set of wrongs. It can't be all about the adults and their needs. The child has different needs and fully open adoptions aren't necessarily the way to address them.
PermalinkPermalink 07/20/07 @ 00:44
Comment from: Sandra Hanks Benoiton [Member] Email · http://international.adoptionblogs.com/
Sorry to but in again on your blog, Deb, but John's comment raises a valid question that has me thinking.

What messages are the children of these adoptive parents getting about their adoption and adoption in general? Is some element of shame coming across that they're supposed to shoulder? Does some sense of failure come along with their adoption story? Is the expectation of anger and resentment placed where they have little choice but to go with it? Are they hearing that their adoption was okay, but most others are horrible, corrupt situations that other adoptees should hang their heads over?

I am very curious to hear how this plays out, especially since so many of the angry adoptees stuck tight in suffering and unable to move forward with their lives we hear so much from now were raised with a less-than-positive image of adoption projected by their parents ... secrecy, lies, admonishments not 'to tell', and such.

It seems unlikely that one could be so focused and so adamant about what is seen as wrong in adoption and not have that impact your adopted children.
PermalinkPermalink 07/20/07 @ 01:36
Comment from: mariah [Member] Email
good points, Sandra. very good.
PermalinkPermalink 07/20/07 @ 01:47
Comment from: AdoptionBlogs Editor [Member] Email · http://editor.adoptionblogs.com
Wow. As a person who is outside the triad, all of this is pretty amazing to me. I had no idea there were so many sub-cultures within the adoption world.

Great blog, Deb and thanks especially to all of you who have commented. This is eye-opening stuff.
PermalinkPermalink 07/20/07 @ 15:44
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